Louisa, thanks for visiting the blog. First and foremost, I’m sure readers want to know—is Two Girls Down a stand-alone, or will readers see Vega and Cap again? They both seemed to have secrets that could emerge in later books.
Oh, they’ll both be
back. I’m happy to say the sequel is
done – it’s called The Janes, and it will be out in about a year,
published by Doubleday. There will also
definitely be at least one more book after that.
Alice Vega was a paradox—she broke rules, but she did it for
the right reasons. I would love to have her fighting on my behalf. Did you have
anyone, or any particular concept, in mind when you created her?
When I started writing, I just knew I
wanted a tough woman protagonist. Salander from Dragon Tattoo was an influence but I wanted mine to
be a little older and well-established in her career path.
The challenge was to
make her realistic – I wanted her to take no shit and do anything to get the
job done, and I wanted her to be the smartest person in the room. And I wanted it to be believable that she
could fight anyone at any time. All the
research I did about bounty hunters (Vega’s former job) indicated that there
are very few women in that line of work, and the women who make that their
livelihoods are physically built for the job – tall and burly and able to take
a bail jumper down through hand-to-hand combat. I wanted to build Vega average-size, but very strong but I knew in order
to sell it on the page, she would have to use every other tool at her disposal
as well – namely words and weapons. That
informed a lot of her character along with her ability to read people and
figure out what they need the most.
The mystery has a terrible reality at its center—the endless
narrative of missing girls. Did you do extensive research about abductions of
women and girls in America? If so, I imagine it was depressing.
I pulled a lot from
my own imagination to begin with. But
then I did a lot of reading about missing persons and children, both girls and
boys, which were all harrowing, deeply sad and disturbing stories. The grief that the parents and families of
missing persons/children feel is just bottomless and never goes away. The three books on the topic that stand out
in my memory are Bringing Adam Home
by Les Standiford and Joe Matthews, The
Last Place You’d Look by Carole Moore and People Who Eat Darkness by Richard Lloyd Parry. They are excellent reads, but tough subject
matter.
After immersing yourself in this content for so long, what
is your response to the recent and unexpected news that Jayme Closs has been
found alive?
I would not call
myself any kind of an expert on the topic, but this did seem like an unusual
case because such a small percentage of abducted kids are abducted by
strangers, as I recall. And even more
unusual that the abductee survives, I would think.
But honestly I think
I’m coming at it the way most people are, which is to say thrilled and happy
that she is alive and astonished by her bravery. She has already beaten incredible odds.
I hope she can get to
the other side of the trauma she’s been through; I saw that picture of her with
her aunt and her dog and read her aunt’s statement – she has a lot of people
who love her and who are pulling for her, which is all you can ask for in a
situation like that.
One of the things I love about Alice Vega is that she simply
refuses to be intimidated. Is this something she had to cultivate, or is it
innate to her character?
I think the key to
Vega is that she has no fear of pain or death. Once you take that away, there’s a great deal of freedom because she
literally has nothing to lose. She’s
also a pretty economical character, and I don’t mean in the monetary sense; I
mean she only deals in what is useful to her.
I think she has found that fear is not useful in her life and work so
she excised it at some point. Of course
she is a human so she’ll still experience fear and guilt and love but she’ll do
her best to stop it if it’s not serving her in some way.
I appreciated the fact that in creating your various law
enforcement officials, who faced some internal conflicts, you stayed away from
clichés and stereotypes and let the readers see some good in every one of them.
Was this a conscious decision?
Absolutely. I find character clichés so lazy, and I get
frustrated when I’m reading a book or watching a show/movie, and there’s a
c*ckblocking FBI agent or an-impulsive-yet-talented rookie or a bad girl with a
heart of gold. It’s not that these
people can’t or don’t exist; I just always want them to be full real
characters. That’s what I tried to do
with all the cops and Feds, give them faces, names, quirks, bad sides, good
sides.
Also I have a good
friend who is a cop who advised me a lot on procedural stuff, and from his
stories on the job, it was very clear that law enforcement is like other
workplaces in that some people are great and trying to do the right thing and
some people are jerks and absolutely not trying to do the right thing.
I am assuming you are a mom based on the way you wrote the
character of Jamie Brandt, and for this reason I am guessing her character was
the hardest to write. Was it rather terrifying to imagine how it would feel to
have your child abducted, almost under your very nose?
I am a mom! When I had my daughter, I felt like I
suddenly understood something beautiful and terrifying about life. I started writing the book when she was two,
and the plot kick-off was pretty much my deepest fears laid out on the page, so
I suppose it was therapeutic in a way.
There were times when
we’d be at the playground or somewhere, and I’d be chatting with another mom or
looking at my phone and then I’d glance up and not see her for thirty seconds,
and well, there it is, that’s the fear, and every parent has felt it.
As for Jamie, I just
tried to get inside her head and walk through those moments. I wanted them to feel excruciatingly
real.
Your dialogue was a pleasure to read. It was sophisticated,
immersing me in the story, but it was also an opportunity to insert much-needed
levity into a grim tale. I especially love the dialogues between Cap and his
daughter, but also some that Cap had with his former colleagues. Is writing
dialogue something that comes easily to you?
It feels that way. I
love dialogue because it can do so much in such a small space. I think I also find out who my people are
through dialogue more than prose. I knew
Cap was going to have a teenage daughter who was sort of thoughtful but I
didn’t know who Nell was until she started talking. Now it’s like she could have her own
spin-off.
As for Cap and his
buddies, again, I tried to work against cop clichés and layer shop-talk with
humor and familiarity. But dialogue
definitely crystallized these characters for me – Junior, Em, Traynor – all of
their images sharpened up through the dialogue.
What got you started writing in this genre?
I’ve always loved
mysteries/thrillers/noir. When I was in
my twenties I was lucky enough to publish three books in a row. The third one, published in 2004, was my
crack at a modern noir, and it was not particularly successful (narratively or
commercially-speaking), but I was just starting to play around with the format.
So I read a lot
between the time I finished that one and the time I started 2GD, and for
some reason, I thought I could pull off writing a suspense novel. I didn’t know the ending when I started, but
I think one of the things the most successful mysteries have in common is
atmosphere, tone. And I thought if I
could get that along with good characters, I’d be halfway home and could figure
out the plot later.
Are there any particular authors that inspire you, in the
mystery genre or elsewhere?
Oh, so many. I love a lot of authors are that can’t be
genre-ized, or that create new genres, or are just really good at what they
do. And as you see, they are all over
the map. Some are: George Saunders,
Rachel Kushner, Donald Ray Pollock, Carmen Maria Machado, Anna Quindlen, Lee
Child, Mo Hayder, Donna Tartt, Elizabeth Strout.
What are you reading now?
As I wrote above, I
recently finished the sequel which had an intensely complicated plot, and after
that, I just needed to cleanse my brain of fiction so I read a great
non-fiction book on a topic about which I knew absolutely nothing: What The
Eye Hears: A History of Tap Dancing by Brian Seibert. It is fantastic and totally accessible and
beautifully-written. Now I’m a little
obsessed with tap dancing.
Also I read a bunch
of short stories but there’s one I can’t stop thinking about: “Two Lasagnas” by
Elisa Albert in Tin House magazine. Talk
about tone. I was sad when it was over. I would have been up for reading a
Knausgaard-length autobiography in that character’s voice.
If you could go to a beautiful writer’s retreat anywhere in
the world, where would you go?
Bolinas,
California. My parents lived there for a
while while I was in college and in my twenties, and something about the ocean
and the beach and the fog just makes me want to slow down and let the ideas
come in.
Where can readers found out more about you and your books?
Someday I’ll have a Twitter and an IG, but
that day is not today.
Thanks so much, Louisa! I look forward to THE JANES.
